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psuter
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posted 7/31/2017 3:20:55 PM
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i realized that there are no transit routes displayed in the SD charts to cross the Airspace of Berne (LSZB) and Geneva (LSBB). these two airports have defined transit routes that they use to grant ctr crossings. A suggestion on how to display such a route would be to show it as a VFR route in SD.
i would appreciate if you could somehow integrate these transit routes into your charts.
for your reference i have added two screenshots of the respective sections of our ICAO chart. (my eyes start itching every time i have to look at these cluttered maps, us SD users are so spoiled
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kind regards
Pascal
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posted 8/4/2017 8:19:31 AM
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hi Tim
i just googled for official coordinates for these routes and guess what, i found another thread in this forum
here
it seems that there are no coordinates that define these routes and they can be seen at least partially on the area charts of the respective airports which are georeferenced in SD, so i understand these routes can't and shouldn't be included in the skydemon charts..
VFR Routes in my opinion are silly anyway as with today’s means of GPS Navigation, the chances of mid air collisions increase dramatically when everybody follows the exact same route but in VFR without proper traffic separation by an ATC.
what our swiss FOCA would need to do if they want these transit routes to be really useful is, they could publish VFR reporting points and then connect them to create such a route, that would be far clearer and would allow SD to incorporate that into your charts as well.
cheers
Pascal
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transit routes for Geneva and Berne
psuter
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7/31/2017 3:20:55 PM
We will look into this, it may depend on those route being officially...
Tim Dawson
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8/2/2017 9:57:51 AM
hi Tim i just googled for official coordinates for these routes and...
psuter
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8/4/2017 8:19:31 AM
I agree. I believe as a result of this thread we will be looking into...
Tim Dawson
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8/7/2017 10:51:49 AM
Dear Pascal, There is many VFR route witch are not shown in SD due to...
mbenoit
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8/13/2017 6:34:24 AM
" I use custom data feature and set myself the routes in SD, then...
Chris_LSZO
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6/10/2020 2:27:21 PM
Here are the one for Bern: Here are t
mbenoit
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8/13/2017 7:24:21 AM
thank you mbenoit for pointing this out. i was not aware i could...
psuter
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7/18/2018 4:03:35 PM
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